Posts by Jesus Christ

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Did The Organization MAKE YOU GO NUTS???

by minimus in

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did you or do you now feel that because you were in the organization you could have gone crazy?

Jesus Christ

Quite a bit of my time today was spent going through old stuff. Old pictures, high school year books, letters from friends, that sort of thing. I really can say that my life, growing up, would have been much much much better had I not been a JW. When I was 16 I almost killed myself because I thought I was a burden and let down to my family, friends, and even god himself because of a judicial meeting. The only thing that pulled me through was knowing my non-JW girlfriend would have been devestated. In a sad way, its almost funny. A group that claims to be the only way to life nearly kills me and the only thing that keeps me around is the very thing that the JW's claim will kill me. I also spent a lot of my time back in school doing everything I could not to fit in. Why? Because all those kids were worldly and would just bring me down. If I could make myself so undesirable that they wouldn't want to hang around me I wouldn't have to go through with explaining why I didn't want to be around them. All I really did is turn off a bunch of really great people who I only wish I knew now. I even used to have panic attacks with halucinations and everything because of all the constant pressure from being a JW. The entire weight of the world is my shoulders. I must go convert more people because if I don't and they die at armagedon their blood will be on my hands. All the while I can't figure out why things that feel so good, natural, and right can possibly be wrong. In the 3+ years I've been out of the JW's I haven't had one single panic attack. What's weird is I used to cough all the time. Doctors thought it was asthma and I had to use multiple inhalers to lessen them (though by no means get rid of them). I still do need an inhaler for when I'm doing something athletic but other than that I never touch them, especially the preventive inhalers and cough much less. I've read that sometimes coughing all the time can be caused by stress. I don't have the pressure from JW's and I hardly cough at all anymore unless I'm sick or doing something very active.

Yes, they did make me crazy and I hate them for it. I absolutely hate them.

17

Changes

by Jesus Christ in

i was going through my closet today and came across a box of old pictures.

some of them had this girl i used to be friends with in them.

we were friends in school and after graduation she was one of the only people i cared to stay in touch with.

Jesus Christ

I was going through my closet today and came across a box of old pictures. Some of them had this girl I used to be friends with in them. We were friends in school and after graduation she was one of the only people I cared to stay in touch with. We got to be closer over the next year or so but never really dated or anything like that (though the thought crossed my mind and I'm pretty sure it did her's too). She was fun, had a good sense of humor, smart, and fiercely loyal to those close to her. Then she went over to Europe to visit a friend over the summer and they had a bit of a falling out. I remember I actually left a meeting to go pick this friend up in a city a couple of hours away (did I mention she was never a JW?) because she came home a few days early.

When she got back home it was like she was a totally different person. She was careless, at times mean, and we ended up having our own falling out because she thought I was part of a conspiracy to break into her house to clean her carpets and, no, I'm not making that up either. She actually went off the deep end about how we while she was gone myself, another girl we were friends with, and that girl's boyfriend were doing everything we could to get into her house to clean the carpets.

Its like one of my friends went to Europe and a completely different person came back and I still don't know why. Have any of you ever had something like that happen to someone you knew? If so, what caused it? Did they ever get back to normal?

21

Guess who called Sunday morning

by Tammie in

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some time around 7 am, my mother in law calls.

hubby answers.

we were still asleep.

Jesus Christ

It's truly pathetic. Is this what Jesus wanted of his followers?

No.

On the main subject of this thread, Tammie, you're being perfectly reasonable. Your MIL lied saying she would just take the boys to the park when she really wanted to take them to an assembly so sticking to that "You can only see the kids while we're around" is not only ok, its actually advisable. You wouldn't let someone take your kids to a strip club when they say that they're going to go to a Disney movie so don't let someone take your kids to an assembly either.

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Sisters going after minor brothers

by nowaytess in

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i know when it comes to pedophiles we are young girls or teenage girls who have been molested by men.. i know of 2 cases where a teenage boy is being seduced by an older woman in the congregation.. .

i know of one when i was a jw in my congregation.

she was 24 and he was 15 1/2 - 16 when they meet.

Jesus Christ

I know of at least one case where a guy I know (not me of course, I'm Jesus and I don't have any kids) had to give his kid enamas, often one right after the other. This was not, however, done for pleasure, at all. The kid has this rare genetic disorder and has to have medical procedures done time to time to take care of it. Before that procedure he needs repeated enamas to clean him out on doctor's orders. Not a fun situation for anyone involved but is one of those cases where I don't think the parents are going over the line that they really wish they didn't even have to approach.

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WIRETAPPING

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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i have had some of strange and weird things happen (strange phone calls, and lots of other weird things, and certain "code words" used towards me), and i believe that there are certain freemasons (or other group), which has tried to use these subtle (and not-so-subtle) threats on me and my family.

(it may be connected to some of my relatives in another state, who may have abuse going on in their family, and we have had a lot of strange dealings with these relatives).. it seems to me, that i have also been wiretapped ("bugged").. certain things that i say in my house, have been repeated to me by other people outside the house.. it is very strange to experience this.. it seems that every single time i would go to the kingdom hall for a meeting, the speaker would repeat something i had said in the house earlier that day or the night before, it was freaky!.

i have seen a few other people post up on this website about being wiretapped by jw elders.. has anyone else experienced any of these things?

Jesus Christ

Or it could just be chance. Sounds as if someone is a tab bit paranoid. Sure it is possible to tap phone lines because its certainly not hard (jeez, give me a pair of wire strippers, some aligator clips, a couple wires, and a handset and I can do it myself). You want to tell if you're being tapped? Do a search for phone boxes. You should get a list of electronic scematics that will include a diagram for a basic device that will be able to tell if someone is listening in on your line. I've built one for a friend in the past and even though I can't remember how to do it I can tell you that it wasn't very hard.

2

Cool Utility

by Jesus Christ in

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ever type up a long post with lots of great insight and then when you hit submit it tells you your password is wrong?

true, it lets you cut and paste everything but then i can never get all the formatting right when i paste it back in.

its great that your password is starred out so people can't see over your shoulder but it would be nice to see what you put in to make sure you got it right when you're at home and don't have to worry about that so much.

Jesus Christ

Somewhere around this site, there's a place where you can check a box, so your password is entered automatically when you post.... Now.... where ?

Only works if you keep cookies turned on with your computer. If you're one of those paranoid people (self included) who doesn't like countless marketing companies to be able to track you then you turn the cookies off on your computer thereby making that little "remember my password" box useless.

BTW, if someone should really want to, various sites can read cookies from other sites. What does that mean? Store your password in your cookie that this site puts on your machine, go to a site that's not very friendly, they can steal your cookies. In a nutshell, they can read and record your username and password and then do what they like with it. Just something to think about and don't even get me started on Microsoft's Passport service and how insecure that is!!!

Edited by - Jesus Christ on 30 September 2002 18:56:50

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Cool Utility

by Jesus Christ in

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friends

ever type up a long post with lots of great insight and then when you hit submit it tells you your password is wrong?

true, it lets you cut and paste everything but then i can never get all the formatting right when i paste it back in.

its great that your password is starred out so people can't see over your shoulder but it would be nice to see what you put in to make sure you got it right when you're at home and don't have to worry about that so much.

Jesus Christ

Ever type up a long post with lots of great insight and then when you hit submit it tells you your password is wrong? True, it lets you cut and paste everything but then I can never get all the formatting right when I paste it back in.

Its great that your password is starred out so people can't see over your shoulder but it would be nice to see what you put in to make sure you got it right when you're at home and don't have to worry about that so much. Go to http://www.snadboy.com and download Revelation 2.0. When you get it installed you drag an X over a starred out password and it will tell you what is typed in there. Pretty cool!

57

Sisters going after minor brothers

by nowaytess in

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friends

i know when it comes to pedophiles we are young girls or teenage girls who have been molested by men.. i know of 2 cases where a teenage boy is being seduced by an older woman in the congregation.. .

i know of one when i was a jw in my congregation.

she was 24 and he was 15 1/2 - 16 when they meet.

Jesus Christ

I knew a guy in high school who was around 16 or 17 and was dating a woman in her late 20's/early 30's and his mom nailed her for statutory rape and even got a restraining order against her. Did it adversly effect him? I don't think so. After they broke up he started going out with a girl who was a grade lower than us and they were together for years. None of them were JW's though.

As for myself, 21 year old JW girl and 23 year old JW girl with 16 year old JW boy, doing naughty things together, no problem what so ever. Never told any of the elders or anything like that but bragged like crazy to various friends. I doubt they really cared about emotional issues or anything like that but then again, its not exactly like I was into their minds or anything. Did it harm me in any way? Nope. If I went back and had the chance to walk away instead there's no way I would, too many good memories!!!!

Now as for non-JW age differences, one of my friend's (as in female friend who I messed around with some) mom came onto me, heavily, once when she was drunk when I just turned 15. I didn't do it because I thought it was kind of creeepy but I'm not traumatized or anything. Also, when I was 15 I went out with an 18 year old who introduced me into many different things and I'm not hurt by it at all. In fact, I'm thankful. Every girlfriend I've had since her has bennifitted from what she taught me. True, at times I was slightly confused but when you're learning stuff, especially something so enjoyable, you usually don't pick it up right away and get slightly confused with it. Once again, I'd gladly do it all over again. On the flip side, when I was 17/18 I went out with a 14/15 year old girl and did quite a bit of naughty stuff with her. I don't really think it effected her negatively and I sure as hell didn't have any negative side effects from it.

Personally, I think more damage can occur just with an emotional relationship instead of a physical one. The two times when I was really messed up from a relationship and very negatively effected was with two girls I never slept with (well, I messed around with one of them but it was long after I had gotten over her and we both knew it was just physical which was just fine). One of them I kissed once and I was a wreck for months when we split because of the emotional attachment was there. The other girl, we came pretty close but never did (not because I didn't want to though) and when we split I was messed up for a year or two. If you really want to stop damage try to keep your boys from getting in tangled emotional relationships until they can handle it. I know personaly those were the ones that caused far more damage than the physical ones.

2

Fun Idea for the GB

by Jesus Christ in

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ok, so we all know how complacent the gb is in child sexual abuse, right?

i was watching south park tonight (yes, we all love it up here in heaven) and it was the episode where the boys join nambla (north american man boy love association).

always recognizing a good chance for a joke on someone i thought i'd go online and see if i could locate a website for nambla.

Jesus Christ

Ok, so we all know how complacent the GB is in child sexual abuse, right? I was watching South Park tonight (yes, we all love it up here in heaven) and it was the episode where the boys join NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association). Always recognizing a good chance for a joke on someone I thought I'd go online and see if I could locate a website for NAMBLA.

Well, if you go to http://www.nambla1.de/join.htm you can see the page for NAMBLA with the instructions on how to join. It costs $40 per person but I'm sure some of us wouldn't mind pitching in to sign up various members of the GB (or even your favorite elder). Who cares about publicity or anything like that but think of how it would look to the other JW's when someone starts getting the newsletter either at Bethel or at your local KH. Granted, not all of them are screwing boys or anything but it would definitely make one hell of a statement!!!!!

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The Next Big JW Issue?

by larc in

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what do you think will be the next big jw issue that should be brought out into the open?.

i think it could be the extreme physical abuse of women and children.

with all that bill bowen is doing, i don't think that he should be the one to take this on.

Jesus Christ

I don't think that's quite possible to tell. I mean, if its such a big issue and if anyone knows about it right now it would be a big issue regardless of the time. Asking what the next big issue for the JW's is going to be is like asking what type of meteorite will be the next big one to wipe out large numbers like the one 65,000,000 years ago did. Its impossible to tell until it happens.